Next Forum meeting
Monday 23rd November 2009 , 7pm, in Committee Room 3 at Camden Town Hall, Judd Street WC1
Agenda
Notes of meeting held on 5th October
Report from Co-ordinating Group
Latest planning applications, or plans in preparation from Argent who will be represented at Director level
Dates of 2010 meetings
Notes from previous meetings
Most recent first, date format: Year/Month/Day
2009-02-05:-
Notes of the Meeting Thursday 5th February,2009 5-7pm
Committee Room 2, Camden Town Hall, Judd Street WC1
Present
| Aileen Hammond | Camden Civic Society | Present |
| Andrew Bosi, | Islington Society & Cally Rail Group | Present |
| Angela Inglis | KXCAAC | Present |
| Antonia Benedict | Apologies | |
| Diana Shelley | Apologies | |
| Dorothea Hackman (notes) | South Camden Deanery Synod | Present |
| Geoffrey Roper, Chair | Lumen UR Church | Present |
| Helia Evans | Ossulton Tenants & Residents Ass’n | *Present |
| Jean Burrett | KXCAAC | |
| Michael Edwards | Apologies | |
| Paul Braithwaite | Camden Councillor | *Present |
| Roger Robinson | Camden Councillor | *Present |
| *Not present for the whole meeting | ||
| IN ATTENDANCE | ||
| Neil McDonald | LBCamden Planning | |
The Chair welcomed those present, introductions took place, apologies were received, the agenda was adopted
- There was no notice of any other business:
- A brief silence was held in memory of Phil Jeffries
Notes of Forum meeting held on 13 November 2008 and matters arising Notes of the meeting were agreed with names completed and minor amendments.
This meeting was not quorate either, so the AGM business could not be resumed.
Presentation of Block T1 Neil McDonald, Camden planning officer 5.15-6pm
INFORMATION
- Nine-14 story building, 10% fully accessible,
- 102 units: 48 private, 34 social, 20 intermediate affordable
- 4 studios, 44 1 bed, 52 2 bed, 15 3 bed, 4 4 bed, 1 5 bed
- Planning application any day
- Individual unit detail still outstanding ie not yet provided
- Podium ie garden on 9th floor
- Not to include extra care, no block for the elderly, R5 has the extra care
- District heating system CH power – energy centre needed in time for whole site
- Condition 46 – green roofs, 3,500m2 – 70%
- Access Goods Way/York Way
- “Beak” end of the building has large penthouses
- One Housing may be the Housing Society
ISSUES
- Disability access – above 5th floor
- It will block the view of railway passengers from the trains
- Crammed
- Viewing corridor
- Canals are not open space
- How many multiple beds are in the social housing and what size are the bedrooms (same area as 2 bed but with half size bedrooms?)
- Noise issues: planning compliance – 60 noise impact, 61 noise impact ground sources – noise mitigation schemes.
- Combustion – storage of biomass for combustion – 2 lorry loads a day –
- height of flues – 77 ft above sea level, want 2 more metres
- diesel engines, 2. gas boilers 3. biomass – burnt by jet engine: anerobic digestion rather than gas
Geoffrey to bring to attention of Planning Response Team
Report on work of Planning Response Team
Four people: Hugh Lake, Michael Edwards, John Chamberlain, Richard Lee clerked by Geoffrey Roper: have given responses on behalf of the Forum. Applications still open for comment:-
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- Deconstruction of Gas Chamber frames
- Bus depot on linear lands between North London Line
- JS Sainsbury’s application – planning officers report to Development Committee discounted Forum response
Discussion of KXDF making model planning responses by way of informing the responses of member organizations, as to respond directly suggests the Forum is still being consulted with appropriately which is no longer the case.
Where there is a unanimous view at a quorate meeting can give KXDF response.
Minded to support KXForum view unless there are divergent group interests.
Points made in discussion of building T1 following Neil McDonald’s presentation:
- Central heat and power
- Drain on grid coming out of KX
Roger said Argent was sympathetic; Network Rail not, even though had a bridge to start
- Oyster–only gated station
- West only approach – south exit
Implementation panels – new appointments to be made
These meet quarterly, daytime, Design Panel give inadequate notice. We can have a second member.
a. Access panel: …………………, Andrew Bosi (to join John Chamberlain)
b. Design panel: ………………, ………………….. (has been Del Brenner)
c. Construction Impact Group: ……………….., Thea Hackman (was Phil Jeffries)
Geoffrey will check with previous representatives and the RL Group.
- Possible involvement of future occupiers University of the Arts, Sainsburys plc
- Managers
- Projects
- Trade unions – so engage with the employees rather than only management.
Plans for future Forum Activities in 2009
EAST-WEST PERMEABILITY – Major campaigning issue for the future
PASSENGER CARE at railway stations – directions – peak for the passengers – signage is appalling – too few public toilets – have to walk maximum distance from the underground to the trains
LIVING STREETS – pedestrian power – yet taxis given priority around stations
8 Feb closing KX inside entrance to tube
TRANSPORT PLANNING – nice new forecourt but needs to be exit-only 8am-10am; will do away with it when they build the new concourse: exit only at any time – but as people need to take the shortest route, this is also a campaigning issue.
Dates of future meetings: Co-ordinating Group 30th March 2009, 7pm
Forum provisionally 7 May time dependent on room availability at the Town Hall
